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Chris Wallace Corners Saxby Chambliss On Recession Comments FOX NEWS SUNDAY w/ CHRIS WALLACE 11.30.08 WALLACE : Let's talk about some of the issues in this campaign. We want to run a clip from an ad from your opponent, Jim Martin. here it is. (video of Jim Martin ad): Listen to Saxby Chambliss. we may not be in a recession. Saxby Chambliss doesn't understand what a recession means? CHAMBLISS: That clip is interesting. That was about four seconds out of a 40-minute speech I gave that morning which, incidentally, when I made that statement, I was quoting Alan Greenspan, who I have a lot more confidence in than I do Mr. Martin's judgment on the economy. Um... (cross-talk) WALLACE: Senator, may I just bring you up on that? Because that quote, when you said, I don't know if we're in a recession. I don't know what that means. You said that in July of this year. In fact, in April of this year, several months before, Alan Greenspan had said we're headed into a recession. CHAMBLISS: Well, you know, there was a real question about what is the definition of a recession. Recession, Chris, if you'll remember, it was supposed to be two consecutive months of negative GDP, and at that point in time we hadn't seen that. Ah, but, you know, economists disagree on the technical definition of recession, and obviously that's what I was talking about. Saxby Chambliss Defending Recession Comments Fox News Sunday |
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Woodstock, GA Sheriff Instructs Deputies To Remove Tracker From Public Saxby Chambliss Rally saxby chambliss Saxby Chambliss High Quality Sheriff Woodstock Georgia Senate Run-Off Campaign |
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Saxby Chambliss Staff Gets Sheriff To Make Tracker Leave Campaign Rally With Rudy Giuliani Saxby Chambliss staff member, Justin Tomczak whispers to Cherokee County Sheriff Roger Garrison to instruct his officers to remove two trackers from a public campaign rally featuring Mayor Rudy Giuliani. The trackers were doing nothing but recording, and were asked to leave for no discernible reason. Apparently Saxby Chambliss and Rudy Giuliani have no interest in someone videotaping what they say on the campaign trail. Saxby Chambliss Woodstock Georgia Run-Off GA-Sen Jim Martin Rudy Giuliani Rally Campaign Senate Election Justin Tomczak Cherokee County Sheriff Roger Garrison |
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Sheriff Instructing Officers To Escort Tracker From Public Saxby Chambliss Campaign Rally Part 1 of 2 videos of a Sheriff removing trackers from a public rally. Apparently Saxby Chambliss and Rudy Giuliani have no interest in someone recording what they say on the campaign trail. Saxby Chambliss Sheriff Woodstock Georgia Run-Off GA-Sen Jim Martin Rudy Giuliani Rally Campaign Senate Election |
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Sheriff Kicks Tracker Out Of Public Saxby Chambliss Rally With Rudy Giuliani ...for no discernible reason- other than the fact that he is videotaping the rally. Saxby Chambliss Sheriff Georgia Senate Run-Off Election GA-Sen Jim Martin Rudy Giuliani Rally Campaign |
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Saxby Chambliss Misquotes Alan Greenspan While Defending Confused Recession Comments Saxby Chambliss clearly wasn't listening to Alan Greenspan in April, when Greenspan clearly believed the economy was "in the throes of recession." Additionally, many, many sources believed the economy was in a recession before the summer. Chambliss Said His Recession Comments From July Were Taken Totally Out Of Context And That Last Spring He Was Saying The Same Thing Alan Greenspan Was Saying. Interviewer Randall Savage made the point that Mr. Martins campaign was running an ad that criticized Saxby Chamblsss comments saying that he didnt know what the term Recession meant, and was asked what led him up those remarks? Chambliss responded, Yeah it was about a forty minute speech I gave and he took two sentences out of it. You know, I was saying the same thing Alan Greenspan was saying, and hes a pretty smart economist. And what it had reference to, you have to think back to the spring when that film was taken, ah, nobody knew whether we were in a recession. There were all kinds of definitions being thrown out about a recession, ah two months of negative GDP was characterized as being recessionary—well we hadnt had two months of a negative GDP. And, you know, as is typical of the ads that have been run against me, there again, it was taken totally out of context and Mr. Martin has no shame about when it comes to running those kinds of statements. [Interview, 11/19/08] July 2008: Saxby Chambliss We May Not Be In A Recession—I Dont Know What That Term Means. At a campaign event, Saxby Chambliss said, Were in the midst right now of a couple different crises, all of, both of which are affecting our economy. Certainly, we may not be in a recession—I dont know that that term means—but I do know this: I know that were in a very sluggish economy today, and I know that there are people out there who have lost their jobs, I know that there are people who are struggling month-to-month to meet their family budgets because of high gas prices. [Saxby Chambliss, (Cumming, Georgia), 7/12/08] April 2008: Greenspan, Economists Said The U.S. Was In The Throes Of Recession. In an April Wall Street Journal survey of economists, three quarters of respondents said that the weakening U.S. economy had further to fall, and by a 3-1 margin said that the economy was in a recession. Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said at the time that the economy was in a recession, although he said it is too soon to say how deep or prolonged the downturn will be. Consumers are beginning to shrink in, the automobile markets are beginning to contract, production is beginning to ease, and we are in the throes of recession, Greenspan said in an interview. [Reuters, 4/8/08; WSJ.com, 4/10/08] April: WSJ: Joblessness And Unemployment Numbers Signal "Unmistakable Recession." Reacting to job loss numbers, Bear Stearns said, "Clear and unmistakable recession signals from the labor marketThisunemployment rate has never occurred in the post-war period without the economy being in recession." [Wall Street Journal, 4/4/08, blogs.wsj.com] April: Citigroup: Economy Is In Recession. An economist from Citigroup said that, "despite continued protestations from some, the U.S. economy is in recession. GDP likely grew slightly in the first quarter, but employment, production and other more relevant data show declinesdomestic industries retrench." [Wall Street Journal, 4/4/08, blogs.wsj.com] June: A Growing Consensus Among Economists Say Recession Hit Early 2008 or Late 2007. Economists say that the current job losses and problem of rising unemployment will come to an end sometime in 2009. And that will be perfect timing for whoever has moved into the Oval Office And even though the gross domestic product, the broadest measure of the nation's economic activity, was up at a modest 1% annual rate in the first quarter, a growing consensus among economists is that the economy fell into a recession either in late 2007 or early this year. [CNN Money, 6/30/08, money.cnn.com] August: Decision Economic Inc Chief Economist: Were In A RecessionIts Going To Widen, Its Going To Deepen. Decision Economic Inc. Chief Economist Allen Sinai said, We're in a recession. It's going to widen, it's going to deepen. [Bloomberg.com, 7/31/08, bloomberg.com] Saxby Chambliss Alan Greenspan Recession |
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Chambliss' Bizarre Reaction To Whistleblower In Aftermath Of Imperial Sugar Fire Tragedy Despite the fact that this vice president for operations for Imperial Sugar was a new-hire and claimed he told management about the dangerous, illegal working conditions of the company's plant in Port Wentworth, Georgia that resulted in the tragic death of 14 and dozens more injured, Senator Saxby Chambliss seemed more interested in calling this whistleblower's sincerity into question instead of focusing blame where it belonged. Transcript: HEARING OF THE EMPLOYMENT AND WORKPLACE SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE SENATE HEALTH, EDUCATION, LABOR AND PENSIONS COMMITTEE SUBJECT: DANGEROUS DUST: IS OSHA DOING ENOUGH TO PROTECT WORKERS? CHAIRED BY: SENATOR PATTY MURRAY (D-WA) WITNESSES: •PANEL I EDWIN G. FOULKE JR., ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF LABOR FOR OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH, OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH ADMINISTRATION (OSHA) •JOHN S. BRESLAND, CHAIRMAN CEO OF U.S. CHEMICAL SAFETY & HAZARD INVESTIGATION BOARD PANEL II AMY SPENCER, SENIOR CHEMICAL ENGINEER, NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION; RICHARD W. PRUGH, SENIOR PROCESS SAFETY SPECIALIST, CHILWORTH TECHNOLOGY INC. •GRAHAM H. GRAHAM, VICE PRESIDENT FOR OPERATIONS, IMPERIAL SUGAR COMPANY LOCATION: 430 DIRKSEN SENATE OFFICE BUILDING, WASHINGTON, D.C. TIME: 10:00 A.M. EDT DATE: TUESDAY, JULY 29, 2008 TRANSCRIPT OF CLIP: SEN. CHAMBLISS: Now, I hear you. I think you've already answered that. Now, you had this meeting with employees at the Port Wentworth plant in which you, Mr. Graham, having gone into this facility, having identified a shocking and dangerous facility at Port Wentworth, you made recommendations to the company which they followed. You told these folks that if they didn't take some corrective action immediately that, according to your words, some of those folks wouldn't be back, they'd be in a morgue. Why didn't you, Mr. Graham, go to the management of Imperial Sugar Company and say by golly, if you don't shut this plant down now and clean this up you're going to have a dangerous situation to occur -- which did occur two weeks after you said you'd made that statement? MR. GRAHAM: I did. SEN. CHAMBLISS: Why didn't you do that? MR. GRAHAM: I did do that. I told Mr. Sheptor that we -- I was surprised that we hadn't killed anybody already because the plants were so dangerous. I was told that my passion was extreme and I had to temper it. I was told to prepare a board presentation for the end of January, during which I was going to recommend asking for a significant change in the way we operated the plant, and I was prevented from doing so. SEN. CHAMBLISS: Well, Mr. Graham, here we are six months almost after the incident occurred and you're still working for the same company that you said you gave that kind of mandate to? It gives me cause to question your sincerity in what you've had to say about this. This has been a very emotional, tragic situation that occurred in south Georgia and is one in which we want to get to the bottom of, obviously, from the standpoint of what happened. But the ultimate result needs to be safety measures put in. And I respect what you say about the fact that you made recommendations to them. But I really have cause to question your sincerity in that because if you were, I can't imagine after what did happen -- and you say you made the statements you did -- why are you still working for this company? Thank you, Mr. Chairman -- Madame Chairman. SEN. MURRAY: Well, Senator Chambliss, I appreciate your comments. Mr. Graham, I do appreciate your coming and speaking today. And I think it's fair for you to be able to respond to those questions, and I will give you that opportunity. MR. GRAHAM: Well, thank you. All of the conditions I described pre-existed my appointment. My objective today was to bring forth the facts laid out before me so that we can collectively decide what needs to be done to prevent this sort of tragedy happening again. The employees of both refineries, and indeed in the industry, deserve a safe working environment. And the reason I'm still there is because I believe I can continue to contribute to achieving that goal. And I will be taking OSHA's findings and moving forward to continue fixing the deficiencies so that we can put these people into an environment which they know is safe and clean. And I will continue that -- continue to work on that over the next several months. SEN. MURRAY: Thank you very much. [Federal News Service, 7/29/08] Saxby Chambliss Imperial Sugar Fire Tragedy Health Education Labor and Pensions Subcommittee |
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Chambliss' Bizarre Reaction To Whistleblower In Aftermath of Imperial Sugar Fire Tragedy Despite the fact that this vice president for operations for Imperial Sugar was a new-hire and claimed he told management about the dangerous, illegal working conditions of the company's plant in Port Wentworth, Georgia that resulted in the tragic death of 14 and dozens more injured, Senator Saxby Chambliss seemed more interested in calling this whistleblower's sincerity into question instead of focusing blame where it belonged. Transcript: HEARING OF THE EMPLOYMENT AND WORKPLACE SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE SENATE HEALTH, EDUCATION, LABOR AND PENSIONS COMMITTEE SUBJECT: DANGEROUS DUST: IS OSHA DOING ENOUGH TO PROTECT WORKERS? CHAIRED BY: SENATOR PATTY MURRAY (D-WA) WITNESSES: •PANEL I EDWIN G. FOULKE JR., ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF LABOR FOR OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH, OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH ADMINISTRATION (OSHA) •JOHN S. BRESLAND, CHAIRMAN CEO OF U.S. CHEMICAL SAFETY & HAZARD INVESTIGATION BOARD PANEL II AMY SPENCER, SENIOR CHEMICAL ENGINEER, NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION; RICHARD W. PRUGH, SENIOR PROCESS SAFETY SPECIALIST, CHILWORTH TECHNOLOGY INC. •GRAHAM H. GRAHAM, VICE PRESIDENT FOR OPERATIONS, IMPERIAL SUGAR COMPANY LOCATION: 430 DIRKSEN SENATE OFFICE BUILDING, WASHINGTON, D.C. TIME: 10:00 A.M. EDT DATE: TUESDAY, JULY 29, 2008 TRANSCRIPT OF CLIP: SEN. CHAMBLISS: Now, I hear you. I think you've already answered that. Now, you had this meeting with employees at the Port Wentworth plant in which you, Mr. Graham, having gone into this facility, having identified a shocking and dangerous facility at Port Wentworth, you made recommendations to the company which they followed. You told these folks that if they didn't take some corrective action immediately that, according to your words, some of those folks wouldn't be back, they'd be in a morgue. Why didn't you, Mr. Graham, go to the management of Imperial Sugar Company and say by golly, if you don't shut this plant down now and clean this up you're going to have a dangerous situation to occur -- which did occur two weeks after you said you'd made that statement? MR. GRAHAM: I did. SEN. CHAMBLISS: Why didn't you do that? MR. GRAHAM: I did do that. I told Mr. Sheptor that we -- I was surprised that we hadn't killed anybody already because the plants were so dangerous. I was told that my passion was extreme and I had to temper it. I was told to prepare a board presentation for the end of January, during which I was going to recommend asking for a significant change in the way we operated the plant, and I was prevented from doing so. SEN. CHAMBLISS: Well, Mr. Graham, here we are six months almost after the incident occurred and you're still working for the same company that you said you gave that kind of mandate to? It gives me cause to question your sincerity in what you've had to say about this. This has been a very emotional, tragic situation that occurred in south Georgia and is one in which we want to get to the bottom of, obviously, from the standpoint of what happened. But the ultimate result needs to be safety measures put in. And I respect what you say about the fact that you made recommendations to them. But I really have cause to question your sincerity in that because if you were, I can't imagine after what did happen -- and you say you made the statements you did -- why are you still working for this company? Thank you, Mr. Chairman -- Madame Chairman. SEN. MURRAY: Well, Senator Chambliss, I appreciate your comments. Mr. Graham, I do appreciate your coming and speaking today. And I think it's fair for you to be able to respond to those questions, and I will give you that opportunity. MR. GRAHAM: Well, thank you. All of the conditions I described pre-existed my appointment. My objective today was to bring forth the facts laid out before me so that we can collectively decide what needs to be done to prevent this sort of tragedy happening again. The employees of both refineries, and indeed in the industry, deserve a safe working environment. And the reason I'm still there is because I believe I can continue to contribute to achieving that goal. And I will be taking OSHA's findings and moving forward to continue fixing the deficiencies so that we can put these people into an environment which they know is safe and clean. And I will continue that -- continue to work on that over the next several months. SEN. MURRAY: Thank you very much. [Federal News Service, 7/29/08] Saxby Chambliss Imperial Sugar |
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Obama: "Fired Up? Ready To Go!" Manassas, Virginia, 11/3/08 Obama: Finally we get to Greenwood. We pull up -- first of all, you don't know you're in Greenwood right away when you get to Greenwood, there aren't a lot of tall buildings there. We pull up to a small building, a field house in the park. We go inside. And lo and behold, after an hour and a half drive, turns out there are twenty people there. Twenty people, and they all look kind of damp and kind of sleepy, like maybe they aren't really excited to be there either. But you know, I am a professional. Ive got to do what I got to do. [applause] So I go around, I'm shaking hands, I'm saying how ya doing, what are ya doing? [applause] Wait, wait. As I go around the room suddenly I hear this voice cry out behind me, "Fired Up!" And Im shocked. I jump up. I dont know what's going on. But everybody else acts like this is normal and they say, "fired up." Then I hear this voice say, "ready to go!" And the other twenty people in the room, they act like this happens all the time, they say ready to go. I don't know what's going on. So I look behind me, and there's this small woman, about sixty years old, a little over five feet. It looks like she just came from church, got a big church hat. [laughter] And she's standing there and she looks at me and shes smiling. And she says, "fired up!" Turns out she is a city councilwoman from Greenwood who also moonlights as a private detective -- I'm not making this up. [laughter] And it turns out she is famous for her chant. She does this wherever she goes, she says "fired up!" and everybody says "ready to go, ready to go." So for the next five minutes she proceeds to do this, "fired up" everybody says "ready to go." And I'm standing there and I'm thinking that I am being outflanked by this woman here. She's stealing my thunder. I look at my staff, they shrug their shoulders, they don't know how long this is going to go. But here's the thing, Virginia -- after a minute or so, I'm feeling kind of fired up. [applause] I'm feeling like I'm ready to go. So I join in the chant. And it feels good. And for the rest of the day, even after we left Greenwood, even though it was still raining, even though I was still not getting big crowds anywhere, even though we hadn't gotten the endorsements of the people we were hoping for, somehow I felt a little lighter, I felt a little better. I'd see my staff, Id say, are you fired up? Theyd say wetre fired up boss, are you ready to go? Heres my point, Virginia -- that's how this thing started. It shows you what one voice can do. One voice can change a room; and if a voice can change a room, it can change a city; and if it can change a city it can change a state; and if change a state, it can change a nation; and if it can change a nation, it can change the world! Virginia, your voice can change the world tomorrow! [applause] In 21 hours, if you are willing, if you are willing to endure some rain, if you are willing to drag that person you know who was not going to vote to the polls, if youre willing to organize and volunteer in the offices, if you are willing to stand with me, if you are willing to fight with me, I know that your voice will matter. So I've just got one question for you, Virginia. Are you fired up? ["Yeah"] Are you ready to go? ["Yeah"] Fired up? ["Fired Up!"] Ready to go? ["Ready to Go!"] Fired up? ["Fired Up!"] Ready to go? ["Ready to Go!"] Fired up? ["Fired Up!"] Ready to go? ["Ready to Go!"] Virginia, let's go change the world. Thank you. God bless you, and God bless the United States of America. barack obama manassas virginia election 2008 |
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Palin Unqualified? NRSC Head Sen. Ensign Oddly Denies Saying So Republican Sen. John Ensign, head of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, on "Face the Nation" 11/2/08. SCHIEFFER: Let me ask you one other question, Senator Ensign. Im told that you said, the other day, in an interview, that Governor Palin has been a drag on the Republican ticket and that, in fact, that you thought that Joe Biden was more qualified to be a vice president. Did you in fact say that? ENSIGN: No, I did not say that. NewsONE, Nevada, 10/30/08. ENSIGN: Certainly Joe Biden is much more qualified than Sarah Palin is. sarah palin john ensign |
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Barack Obama on Dick Cheney's McCain Endorsement SEN. OBAMA: "Earlier today, Dick Cheney came out of his undisclosed location and hit the campaign trail. He said that he is, and I quote, delighted to support John McCain. Id like to congratulate Senator McCain on this endorsement because he really earned it. That endorsement didnt come easy. Senator McCain had to vote 90 percent of the time with George Bush and Dick Cheney to get it. He served as Washingtons biggest cheerleader for going to war in Iraq, and supports economic policies that are no different from the last eight years. So Senator McCain worked hard to get Dick Cheneys support. But heres my question for you, Colorado: do you think Dick Cheney is delighted to support John McCain because he thinks John McCains going to bring change? Do you think John McCain and Dick Cheney have been talking about how to shake things up, and get rid of the lobbyists and the old boys club in Washington? Colorado, we know better. After all, it was just a few days ago that Senator McCain said that he and President Bush share a common philosophy. And we know that when it comes to foreign policy, John McCain and Dick Cheney share a common philosophy that thinks that empty bluster from Washington will fix all of our problems, and a war without end in Iraq is the way to defeat Osama bin Laden and the al Qaeda terrorists who are in Afghanistan and Pakistan. So George Bush may be in an undisclosed location, but Dick Cheneys out there on the campaign trail because hed be delighted to pass the baton to John McCain. He knows that with John McCain you get a twofer: George Bushs economic policy and Dick Cheneys foreign policy but thats a risk we cannot afford to take. It's time for change and that's why I'm running for President of the United States." barack obama john mccain dick cheney endorsement |
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Dick Cheney Endorses John McCain November 1, 2008 dick cheney john mccain endorsement sarah palin george bush |
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Pat Buchanan: Bush & McCain "Share The Same Philosophy" Pat Buchanan: Bush & McCain "Share The Same Philosophy" john mccain george bush more of the same change |
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One Nevada Voter Speaks About Change CNN - October 30, 2008 barack obama campaign change |
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Sen. Obama Predicts McCain's Next Line of Attack North Carolina - 10/29/08 SEN. OBAMA: Now, because he knows that his economic theories don't work, he's been spending these last few days calling me every name in the book. Lately he's called me a socialist for wanting to roll-back the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans so we can finally give tax relief to the middle class. I don't know what's next. By the end of the week he'll be accusing me of being a secret communist because I shared my toys in kindergarten. I shared my peanut butter and jelly sandwich. barack obama john mccain communist socialist socialism kindergarten |
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More of the Same DNC WEB VIDEO: More of the Same BIDEN: Theres not one fundamental economic issue on which John McCain has challenged George Bush or his policies. [Biden Campaign Rally, 10/21/08] CHYRON: McCain Campaign: Your Response? QUESTION: Senator Graham, John McCain is calling for an extension, or maybe even enhancement of the Bush policies? GRAHAM: Yeah. Absolutely. [ABCs This Week, 6/8/08] LIZ CHENEY: I think on the really important issues that face the country, on issues like the war on terror and the economy, Senator McCain in fact is advocating those policies that those of us who supported President Bush and the Vice President believe are the right ones for this nation. [MSNBC, 6/23/08] QUESTION: So it would be in effect a third Bush term when it came to pro-growth tax policies? HOUSE REPUBLICAN WHIP ROY BLUNT (R-MO): It would be. I think it would be. And I think thats a good thing. [CNN, 5/11/08] QUESTION: Can you name one economic issue where McCain has been different than the President? SEN. JON KYL (R-AZ): I don't choose to. [MSNBC, 10/21/08] QUESTION: Are there any significant economic differences between what the Bush administration has put forward over these many years as opposed to now what John McCain supports? GOV. MARK SANFORD (R-SC): Um, yeah. For instance, take, you know, take, for instance, the issue of -- I'm drawing a blank, and I hate it when I do that, particularly on television. Take, for instance the contrast on NAFTA.. QUESTION: I dont see, uh, hes a huge supporter of free trade, John McCain. The Bush Administration supports free trade. I dont see a big difference between the two on free trade. SANFORD: No, I was going to go to a point, which was what you would want is consistency with regard to that position. [CNN, 7/13/08] john mccain more of the same george bush |
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Obama: McCain is fighting for Joe the CEO Obama in Virginia, 10/22/08. Obama: And by the way, don't be fooled -- look, I had a nice conversation the other day with Joe the plumber. [laughter] Joe, Joe's cool. Joe's cool. I got no problem with Joe. All I want to do is give Joe a tax cut. [laughter] But let's be clear who Senator McCain's fighting for. He's not fighting for Joe the plumber. He's fighting for Joe the hedge fund manager. [cheers and applause] John McCain likes to talk about Joe the plumber, but he's in cahoots with Joe the CEO. [applause] So don't be fooled. Don't let them hoodwink you. If you make less than a quarter of a million dollar as year, which includes 98% of small business owners, you won't see your taxes increase one single dime -- not your payroll taxes, not your income taxes, not your capital gains taxes, nothing. That's my commitment to you. Obama Mccain Fight For Joe The CEO |
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Barack Obama On John McCain's Flip-Flop on Taxes Barack Obama On John McCain's Flip-Flop on Taxes Obama: The irony is, is that when George Bush proposed the original tax cuts that lowered tax rates for the wealthiest Americans, who objected? John McCain. Who said these were irresponsible and said that they would prevent middle-class tax relief? That they weren't properly targeted? Now was John McCain a socialist back in 2000 when he opposed the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans? Because all I'm trying to do is reverse those so that we can give relief to people who really need help. It's not a very plausible argument that he's making right now. And I think it's an indication that they have run out of ideas. barack obama john mccain spending taxes |
